EXCLUSIVE: The awards prospects of Emilia Pérez‘s title character Karla Sofía Gascón persist to circle the drain, but the film’s other Oscar nominees – including Zoe Saldaña and honestor/co-authorr Jacques Audiard among 13 nominations acquired by the film — will originate the rounds this weekend at industry the assembleings that originate momentum in the final push to the Oscars as Netflix tries to resuscitate its chances. Gascón alertedly will not be part of the weekend’s activities, but as a nominee she still gets a ticket to the Oscars, and if she comes she should not be surpascend if she gets the freezing shoulder from her cohorts on Emilia Pérez.
In this exclusive intersee with Deadline, Audiard transmites proset up disassignment with Gascón’s behavior, essentipartner disowning her for the position she has put others in, and for her persistd materializeances filled with half-apologies, and the hurt felt by those she aimed in her innovative leave outives. It’s a reminder that as much as they would enjoy to, film companies hgreater restrictcessitate sway with stars in crisis moments. Advisors all around Nate Parker encouraged him to show contrition on shows enjoy 60 Minutes toward the woman he was accused of intimacyupartner aggressioning when he was a college student (she eventupartner pledgeted self-destruction for reasons obstreatment). This was when 2018’s The Birth of a Nation chaseed a enroll-setting Sundance deal and rapturous applause that set uped the film as and timely Oscar frontrunner.
But Parker, who as a youthful Bconciseage man in danger of a prison sentence, watched as an all-white jury acquitted him, had strong senseings all his own. To have to endure an apology tour so many years tardyr was difficult for Parker, who co-wrote, honested and starred in the film. He came off defiant on 60 Minutes, and it sank the film and did not originate the nurtureer trajectory most thought he would experience. Gascón faces the same prospect. Awards are not so beginant when these leangs are so personal for the participants, echoive of their personal struggles to get here. One can only hope Gascón discovers peace someday with the self-imposeed misapshows and what they might say about her, all of which have overapshown the excellent will of her emerging as a symbol of what a trans person can dedwellr onscreen.
Here, the French auteur Audiard talkes the burden of making a much-lauded film and now, enjoy Saldaña, having to disavow the indefensible posts that have undone Gascón. Audiard also defends a comment he made about the Spanish language which seems to have gotten mismake cleared in the translation. The film has been dissected down to the decision to film Emilia Pérez in France rather than Mexico even though the film might not have gotten made otheralerted. Emilia Pérez was acquired by Netflix at Cannes, for the U.S. and two other territories. It was sgreater as an indie everywhere else in the world. Because Audiard is French, the financials were much more likeable if he sboiling in his home country. While the rebate in Mexico would have been $1 million, the financial profit of shooting in France was 12 times fantasticer. That was half the film’s $24 million budget, sources shelp. Here, Audiard sticks up for his film and everyone else who made it and are not Karla Sofía Gascón.
DEADLINE: When we spoke a restrictcessitate weeks ago as the film was racking up awards nominations, the concentrate was on how you set up inspiration for the Emilia Pérez character from an bewilder character in a novel, and how you arranged it enjoy an opera. The chooseics of Gascón’s social media leave outives have fantasticly alterd the conversation and chooseics on the film. What do you originate of the way this whole leang has turned around?
JACQUES AUDIARD: You definitepartner are talking about Karla Sofía and all that stuff?
DEADLINE: Yes, how Gascón’s greater social media posts have become an overriding publish heading into this post-nomination period.
AUDIARD: Yes. Very unfortunately, it is taking up all the space, and that originates me very downcast. It’s very difficult for me to leank back to the toil I did with Karla Sofía. The suppose we splitd, the exceptional atmosphere that we had on the set that was indeed based on suppose. And when you have that benevolent of relationship and suddenly you read someleang that that person has shelp, leangs that are absolutely disenjoyful and worthy of being disenjoyd, of course that relationship is impacted. It’s as if you drop into a hole. Because what Karla Sofía shelp is inexcusable.
DEADLINE: Have you spoken to her?
AUDIARD: I haven’t spoken to her, and I don’t want to. She is in a self-destructive approach that I can’t intrude in, and I repartner don’t understand why she’s continuing. Why is she harming herself? Why? I don’t understand it, and what I don’t understand about this too is why she’s harming people who were very seal to her. I’m leanking in this leang of how hurting others, of how she’s hurting the crew and all these people who toiled so incredibly difficult on this film. I’m leanking of myself, I’m leanking of Zoe [Saldaña] and Selena [Gomez]. I fair don’t understand why she’s continuing to harm us.
I’m not getting in touch with her because right now she necessitates space to echo and apshow accountability for her actions.
DEADLINE: That sentiment seems to be leave outing in her fusillade of comments and intersees. Sometimes you fair transmit remorse and own that what you’ve shelp was wrongheaded. We haven’t repartner seen that.
AUDIARD: Absolutely not. She’s repartner percreateing the victim. She’s talking about herself as a victim, which is unpredicted. It’s as if she thought that words don’t hurt.
DEADLINE: How has all this impacted your enthusiasm to be out there in Hollywood at events nastyt to donate your film momentum? Stiff upper lip?
AUDIARD: Well, I’m certainly going to join, but for the moment there’s someleang downcast about it. I thought I was coming back here brimming of enthusiasm and now there’s a downcastness that we have to get past, if leangs aren’t evident, then we necessitate to shed weightless on them and we’re going to have to spend time on continuing to repartner defend this film.
I’m not alone in this business. There’s Zoe. I want to and I’m going to champion and defend her. I would never let her go. There’s my exceptional crew that toiled on this film, with faith and enthusiasm. There’s no way I’m letting go of these people.
DEADLINE: It was remarkd that in an intersee with a French website, you were quoted saying that Spanish is a language of unpretentious countries, of enbiging countries, of the necessitatey and immigrants. Care to elucidate what you nastyt?
AUDIARD: Absolutely. Just to donate you a little background, I’ve frequently made films in cultures that were not those of my native language. I’ve made a film in Tamil, I made a Weserious, in English. I’m drawn to leangs that don’t belengthy to the domain of my native language, and I happen to enormously cherish the Spanish language. I wanted to originate an international film. Now, if you’re going to originate an international film, there’s not a lot of languages that you have to pick from. There’s English and there’s Spanish, and Spanish is such a wealthy language that passes borders. What’s been shelp about my statement is actupartner exactly the opposite of what I leank. I toiled five years on this film and for it to now be denigrated in this way, it’s repartner sshow too much.
DEADLINE: That is part of the criticism coming from Mexico. Some have objected to the depiction of the cartels and their victims. What are these critics leave outing in your intent in making this musical?
AUDIARD: What shocked me is that either people haven’t seen the film properly, or they haven’t seen it at all and are acting in horrible faith. The recontransientation of the cartels in the film is thematic. It’s not someleang that I’m particularly concentrateed on in the film. There’s one scene that deals with it. The authentic leang that I’m interested in, that I was interested in doing, is that I wanted to originate an opera. That insists a strong stylization. Well, that tends to be how opera is to have schematic elements. The psychology can be restrictcessitate. Opera has psychoreasonable restrictations. It seems I’m being strikeed in the court of authenticism. Well, I’ve never claimed that I wanted to originate a down-to-earth toil. If I wanted to originate a toil that was particularly recorded, then I would do a recordary, but then there would be no singing and dancing. For example, I read a examine where it shelp that night tagets in Mexico City don’t have pboilingocopiers. Well, in night tagets in Mexico City, one also doesn’t sing and dance. You have to adchoose that is part of the magic here. This is an opera, not a criticism of anyleang about Mexico.
DEADLINE: Because the film is percreateing theatricpartner in most international territories, you have done press in many countries. How Speaker 2:
Right, right. Well, now, and Jack, I leank you have been, you’ve been out there promoting the film in places enjoy South America. What reaction have you gotten from the journacatalogs who watched the film and interseeed you, and has it alterd as the result of the Karla argue?
AUDIARD: The reactions have alterd. The reactions now are not the reactions that we were having earlier. As you’re very right to point out, I’ve been toiling on promoting this film for a lengthy time, since before Cannes, and the reactions that we’re seeing now did not exist then and did not exist for a lengthy time. I leank the reactions around Mexico repartner alterd around the Ggreateren Globes, and now I can’t not refer beginant facts enjoy the fact that we’ve had many European prizes, aside from the Ggreateren Globes. There has been this asking alter in the recognition that we’ve gotten from the profession, the uncover, and then the social nettoils.
DEADLINE: Can you be definite about how the reactions alterd?
AUDIARD: Well, the reactions have alterd in that initipartner we had a lot of likeable reactions, people who were asking to see the film, people who were very satisfied to have seen the film. And then at a certain point, the film begined to get condemnd a lot, condemned by people who may very well not have seen the film. I have to refer that I don’t see examines very much, but I’ve heard that some examines have leangs about the film that are sshow not genuine. Generpartner, I’m strikeed on the ask of authenticism, but I repartner have to say I’ve never been treated this way before.
DEADLINE: Your reputation as a filmoriginater and an artist is impeccable. What has this made you sense about the whole idea of these award-season campaigns, donaten that the recent talkion about your film doesn’t repartner have much to do with originateive accomplishment?
AUDIARD: There’s cut offal ways you can see this. The first way, which is maybe my state of mind today, is that it’s tiring, it’s exhausting. But there’s another way of seeing at it, which is maybe more of the cinephile way. And that is, if a film ignites a argue, well, that donates me confidence in cinema.
DEADLINE: It is in acquireing with your quote that your films aren’t here to answer asks as much as to ask them…
AUDIARD: For me, cinema fundamenhighy does not serve to answer asks. It’s not able to, because the answers are going to alter every week. Its function is to ask asks. Now, these asks may be more or less pertinent, but it seems to me here that the asks are getting people talking.
DEADLINE: I’m turning 65, and I have never been active on social media, because too many people say the wrong leangs or their words are mismake cleared. Are you active on social media? Because to me, this is a cautionary tale as to what a slick slope it can be…
AUDIARD: I’m going to answer you very repartner and point by point. I’m 72 years greater, I’m not on any social media. And I leank I may donate up on my cell phone.
DEADLINE: As you repercreate events of the movie, is there anyleang you repent or might have done separateently?
AUDIARD: Let’s fair talk about the financial stuff. The repent that we had, because this was a very beginant choice, was that we didn’t originate it in a studio in Mexico. And the straightforward reason for that is that the film funding, the uncover funding for film in Mexico was not as excellent for us as what was useable, useable to us in France thcimpolite these exceptional institutions, the CNC and regional film funding.
DEADLINE: Anyleang else you desire to insertress?
AUDIARD: I leank we’ve had quite a comprehensive conversation. I fair want to thank you for apshowing me to transmit myself both on the publishs that have aascendn, and on cinema.
DEADLINE: It seemed the uninwholeest way to do it. I’m repentting asking you about repents, because perhaps the moment you temper your originateive instincts to try anticipating reactions, and trying to prent people, maybe you stop being Jacques Audiard, and become someone whose toil is less requesting. A musical about a cartel guideer who alters gender and gets drawn back into her own life, senses enjoy a pretty huge originateive striumphg to me.
AUDIARD: I appreciate that and being able to elucidate myself.
Emilia Pérez. Director Jacques Audiard on the set of Emilia Pérez. Cr. Shanna Besson/PAGE 114 – WHY NOT PRODUCTIONS – PATHÉ FILMS – FRANCE 2 CINÉMA © 2024.
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